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		<title>Ranking the Top 10</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2015 03:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Paregol]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[August 6, 2015 &#8211; In the immortal words of Keith Jackson, &#8220;Whoa Nellie!&#8221;  Two hours flew by as the Top 10 Republican candidates (more like 9 plus 1 pretender) danced around a series of pointed questions about their respective positions.  As projected, there was a bit of carnage in the nightcap in Cleveland, but what I [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thebenchjockeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/DSC_0704.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1503" src="http://thebenchjockeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/DSC_0704-199x300.jpg" alt="Rubio CPAC" width="125" height="189" /></a>August 6, 2015 &#8211; In the immortal words of Keith Jackson, &#8220;Whoa Nellie!&#8221;  Two hours flew by as the Top 10 Republican candidates (more like 9 plus 1 pretender) danced around a series of pointed questions about their respective positions.  As projected, there was a bit of carnage in the nightcap in Cleveland, but what I did not understand is why would Fox purposely phrase so many questions to make the candidates unlikeable.  They are still cleaning up blood from the wounds inflicted upon Rand Paul this evening courtesy of separate attacks from Trump and Christie.</p>
<p>Fox News Channel moderators Megyn Kelly, Chris Wallace and Bret Baier provided an awkward, chatty opening unfitting for a national discussion.  However, once the rhetoric began to fly, it was clear that Fox was targeting Trump&#8217;s candidacy and using their inquiries to expose his weaknesses as a Republican candidate.  That, I can understand.  But as a Fox product, why not have the moderators ask a few questions over the course of the evening that might allow the GOP to gain some support from the undecideds.  In my opinion, the phrasing of the questions by the Fox commentators did not bolster the Republican messaging, but instead made each of them appear weaker.</p>
<p>Right off the bat, Trump&#8217;s reluctance to waive the possibility of a 3rd party run set the tone for the debate.  With the independent elephant in the room immediately in play, I would have liked to have seen follow-up questions directed to some of the other candidates about &#8220;party versus person&#8221; in an effort to further isolate Trump since that was the clearly Fox&#8217;s intention. Always playing a hunch, it is interesting to note that during the debate, The Donald was overtly supportive of Jeb Bush &#8211; which might be a wise hedge bet.</p>
<p>Not all of the candidates were asked the same questions, but each got a crack at a domestic issue and a foreign policy matter.  Using a +2 to -2 rating for each response given, here is how we scored the candidates.</p>
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<td width="64"></td>
<td width="33">Q1</td>
<td width="33">Q2</td>
<td width="33">Q3</td>
<td width="33">Q4</td>
<td width="33">Q5</td>
<td width="33">Q6</td>
<td width="33">Q7</td>
<td width="42">Close</td>
<td width="48">Total</td>
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<td>Bush</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>-1</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>5</td>
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<td>Carson</td>
<td>-1</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>-2</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>0</td>
<td></td>
<td>0</td>
<td>-3</td>
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<td>Christie</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>1</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td>0</td>
<td>6</td>
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<td>Cruz</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>1</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td>0</td>
<td>7</td>
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<td>Huckabee</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>2</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td>1</td>
<td>7</td>
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<td>Kasich</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>0</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td>-1</td>
<td>0</td>
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<td>Paul</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>0</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td>0</td>
<td>1</td>
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<td>Rubio</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>1</td>
<td></td>
<td>1</td>
<td>9</td>
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<td>Trump</td>
<td>-1</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>-1</td>
<td>-2</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>1</td>
<td></td>
<td>1</td>
<td>-2</td>
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<td>Walker</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>5</td>
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<p>All of the candidates were confronted with similar opening questions which addressed their perceived weaknesses.  Notably, the candidates did not all receive an equal number of questions: Rand Paul and Chris Christie were severely shortchanged.  Huckabee, Cruz and Christie made the most of their opportunities, while the good doctor Carson looked uneasy and did not shine among the top tier candidates.</p>
<p>We had Marco Rubio as the winner for the evening session, but evangelicals, Huckabee and Cruz were close behind and each of the 2nd place finishers were offered one fewer question.  Trump was surprisingly well-behaved but offered little content.  Jeb Bush did not seem excited about his messaging but he plodded along.  Kasich benefitted from the Ohio home cooking, but did not score many points with the Bench Jockeys.</p>
<p>We are now just over 15 months away from election night 2016.  Much can happen between now and the Iowa Caucus (2/1/16), New Hampshire Primary (2/9/16) and Super Tuesday (3/1/16).  We aim to stay on top of the 2016 election, and accordingly, our odds have been adjusted. Click here <a title="Updated Odds" href="http://thebenchjockeys.com/updated-odds-for-2016-presidential-nominations/" target="_blank">http://thebenchjockeys.com/updated-odds-for-2016-presidential-nominations/</a> for our updates which consider our perceptions from both the early show and the main event.</p>
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		<title>2012 GOP Presidential Candidates Odds 2.0</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Paregol]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The GOP hopefuls will be back at it again in Iowa on August 11th.   As the candidates size up one another under the watchful eye of FOX News, the Bench Jockeys thought it was time to separate the contenders from the pretenders and develop a tiered chart for easy review.  On this chart, we have [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP hopefuls will be back at it again in Iowa on August 11<sup>th</sup>.   As the candidates size up one another under the watchful eye of FOX News, the Bench Jockeys thought it was time to separate the contenders from the pretenders and develop a tiered chart for easy review.  On this chart, we have maintained our original opening odds from April 12, 2011 along with each candidate’s current odds to win the nomination (as we see it).  A separate designation (A) has been added for those candidate who have officially entered the fracas.</p>
<p>In this iteration of our odds-making, we have winnowed the field and have scratched Donald Trump, Mike Huckabee, Lindsey Graham, Haley Barbour and Mitch Daniels to reflect their current intentions to remain on the sidelines.  However, if the citizenry truly begins to seek to limit Obama to one term,<span id="more-1077"></span> we would not discount the possibility of any of the above-named individuals re-entering the process.  David Petraeus, Conde Rice and Bob McDonnell seem to be either content with their existing positions or lack the moxie for a run at the Presidency so we have pulled them from the list.  Others who have not declared have now been relegated to our off-line fourth tier and have been dropped from this GOP Nom 2.0 list.  Those seeking to examine our original 40 candidate list will find a jump-link below:</p>
<p><a href="http://thebenchjockeys.com/the-bench-jockeys-set-odds-on-the-2012-presidential-hopefuls/">http://thebenchjockeys.com/the-bench-jockeys-set-odds-on-the-2012-presidential-hopefuls/</a></p>
<p>We will continue to maintain the comprehensive list on a stand alone page, keeping our odds current while considering trending.</p>
<p>Tier 1</p>
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<col span="1" width="139" />
<col span="1" width="43" />
<col span="1" width="74" />
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<td width="123" height="20"><strong>Candidate</strong></td>
<td width="139"><strong>Background</strong></td>
<td width="43"><strong>Status</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: center;" width="74"><strong>Open</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: center;" width="71"><strong>Current</strong></td>
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<td height="20">Mitt Romney</td>
<td>Former Gov &#8211; MA</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">7:2</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">3:1</td>
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<td height="20">Tim Pawlenty</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">Current Gov &#8211; MN</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">4:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">5:1</td>
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<td height="20">Rick Perry</td>
<td>Current Gov &#8211; TX</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"></td>
<td style="text-align: center;">50:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">12:1</td>
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<td height="20">Ron Paul</td>
<td>Current US Rep &#8211; TX</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"> A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">9:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">15:1</td>
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<td height="20">Jim DeMint</td>
<td>Current US Sen &#8211; SC</td>
<td></td>
<td style="text-align: center;">14:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">18:1</td>
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<p>Tier 2</p>
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<col span="1" width="123" />
<col span="1" width="139" />
<col span="1" width="43" />
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<td width="123" height="20"><strong>Candidate</strong></td>
<td width="139"><strong>Background</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: center;" width="43"><strong>Status</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: center;" width="74"><strong>Open</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: center;" width="71"><strong>Current</strong></td>
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<td height="20">Michele Bachmann</td>
<td>Current US Rep &#8211; MN</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">25:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">22:1</td>
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<td height="20">Herman Cain</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">Former Fed Reserve</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">25:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">25:1</td>
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<td height="20">Chris Christie</td>
<td>Current Gov &#8211; NJ</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"></td>
<td style="text-align: center;">18:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">25:1</td>
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<td height="20">Marco Rubio</td>
<td>Current US Sen &#8211; FL</td>
<td></td>
<td style="text-align: center;">20:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">25:1</td>
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<td height="20">Bobby Jindal</td>
<td>Current Gov &#8211; LA</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"></td>
<td style="text-align: center;">30:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">30:1</td>
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<td height="20">Sarah Palin</td>
<td>Former Gov &#8211; AK</td>
<td></td>
<td style="text-align: center;">25:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">35:1</td>
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<td height="20">Jon Huntsman</td>
<td>Former Gov &#8211; UT</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">40:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">35:1</td>
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<p>Although we have downgraded him with respect to the 2012 election, we absolutely see Marco Rubio as a potential VP candidate.  The old guard Republicans would be wise to include Rubio on their ticket in an effort to pass the torch to the next gen of the GOP while they can still wield some influence on him.   Considering the expanding Latino demographic shift in the US, Rubio’s oratory strength and his fiscally conservative economic platform, his selection by the party should be a no-brainer.  But then again, the GOP paired John McCain with “the maverick” in 2008, so who knows….</p>
<p>Tier 3</p>
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<col span="1" width="123" />
<col span="1" width="139" />
<col span="1" width="43" />
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<td width="123" height="20"><strong>Candidate</strong></td>
<td width="139"><strong>Background</strong></td>
<td width="43"><strong>Status</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: center;" width="74"><strong>Open</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: center;" width="71"><strong>Current</strong></td>
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<td height="20">Jeb Bush</td>
<td>Former Gov &#8211; FL</td>
<td></td>
<td style="text-align: center;">50:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">50:1</td>
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<td height="20">Newt Gingrich</td>
<td>Former Spkr of House</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">12:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">60:1</td>
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<td height="20">Allen West</td>
<td>Current US Rep &#8211; FL</td>
<td></td>
<td style="text-align: center;">100:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">80:1</td>
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<td height="20">Rudy Giuliani</td>
<td>Former Mayor &#8211; NYC</td>
<td></td>
<td style="text-align: center;">200:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">200:1</td>
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<td height="20">Rick Santorum</td>
<td>Former US Sen &#8211; PA</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">1000:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">250:1</td>
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<p>Tier 4 &#8211; Announced candidates with zippy chance of winning</p>
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<td width="123" height="20"><strong>Candidate</strong></td>
<td width="139"><strong>Background</strong></td>
<td width="43"><strong>Status</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: center;" width="74"><strong>Open</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: center;" width="71"><strong>Current</strong></td>
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<td height="20">Thad McCotter</td>
<td>Current US Rep &#8211; MI</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">none</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">750:1</td>
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<td height="20">Gary Johnson</td>
<td>Former Gov &#8211; NM</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">500:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">1000:1</td>
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<td height="20">Buddy Roemer</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">Former Gov &#8211; LA</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">5000:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">5000:1</td>
</tr>
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<td height="20">Fred Karger</td>
<td>Political Consultant</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">A</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">a trillion:1</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">a trillion:1</td>
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